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Devvy Kidd Before I get started on the meat of this piece, I want to say something about a common question I get from people: "Devvy, you know the government is covering up on this bombing, we'll never know the truth, why bother?" Why bother? How about this for starters: Slaughtered April 19, 1995:
There is too much scientific evidence and eyewitness accounts that point to more than McVeigh, Nichols or Fortier as the masterminds behind this heinous act of murder. Why do I bother? For God's sake, how can anyone sit back and swallow the bald-faced lies about this bombing and do nothing about it simply because the odds are stacked against us? We must do everything we can to expose the truth, stacked deck or not. I hate working on these pieces and I've been following this for six years. I can't even imagine what the families of these victims and the survivors have gone through. Below are references to photos and references of more photos of the crime scene. Just imagine what it must have been like and the wounds that will never really heal for all these people. Think you're having a bad day? I used to say that about our Viet Nam POW's and their families. Now I say it again, only this time about the OKC bombing and many other "tragedies." Next time you're having a bad day, remember that list above. I have and it makes me feel very small and ungrateful. Please note the absence of ATF and FBI personnel. Not that I would have wished any of them to die that day, but it is glaringly obvious that they were gone from the building that day and that they had prior warning to stay away. I thought I was going to knock out this update in a day or two. I've spent the last five days, in between everything else, combing more than 500 web sites looking for specific things. This piece is not a re-hash of the other pieces I have done on the bombing: http://www.devvy.com/okctwa.html For the nay-sayers and skeptics out there like Bill O'Reilly (FOX), I recommend you read these pieces first so that you can see what was going on back at the beginning. Then I strongly recommend you get the video, Cover-Up in OKC. This video contains a live affidavit by a woman named Jane Graham, a bombing survivor who was in the building when the bombs went off. A woman who was barred from testifying at the grand jury which was convened in OKC that eventually indicted McVeigh and Nichols. Nor was she allowed to testify at McVeigh's trial. You can order this video at: http://www.devvy.com/ord.html I arrived in Denver, Colorado on May 11th for my daughter's college graduation. During the day on the car radio, I heard the news that McVeigh's execution was stayed. The reason given by the feds was that an FBI field agent suddenly decided to turn over 3,000 documents, mostly 302's (witness statements). Kinda like Hillary Clinton finding the Rose Law Firm billing records on the coffee table in the private residence of the White House 21/2 years after they were requested by the Special Council. Yeah, right. The FBI even put out a real dignified looking press release on this: |
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May 11, 2001 The investigation into the April 19, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building, referred to as "OKBOMB", was one of the most labor intensive efforts in FBI history. This investigation produced millions of records, including 23,290 pieces of evidence, over 238,000 photographs, and in excess of 28,000 interviews. The OKBOMB Task Force and Director Freeh requested all FBI offices to forward items and documentation relating to the investigation to the Task Force. On numerous occasions, commencing in the fall of 1995, we sought and obtained numerous assurances from FBI field offices and legal attaches that diligent searches for documents had taken place and that all matters relating to the investigation had been made available for inclusion in the discovery process. In December of 2000, the FBI initiated procedures to ensure that all OKBOMB investigative records were appropriately archived. Over the course of the last several months, the FBI exercised due diligence to ensure that all records created as a result of the investigation were logged into and compared with each of 26 data bases which serve as a repository for information. During this process it was determined that some of the materials from various FBI field offices were not a part of the investigative database. Moreover, this was the first time the OKBOMB task force had seen these materials, and none were used in the Government's case. I informed senior FBI officials at Headquarters for the first time on Tuesday, May 8, 2001 that the archiving process had turned up these materials. These materials included results of interviews, notes, and transmittal envelopes which contain physical items. The FBI is working closely with the prosecutors and the Justice Department to carefully review each item. The materials have been provided to the defense attorneys, who are also reviewing each of the items to ensure that there is nothing that bears on the convictions or sentences of Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols. I have been advised that the Attorney General has ordered an immediate inquiry into this matter by the Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General.
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SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF INDIANA Jane GRAHAM, and V. Z. LAWTON v. Harley LAPPIN, Warden
The Honorable Steve CARTER, Necessary Party AFFIDAVIT OF JANE GRAHAM State of Oklahoma Before me, the undersigned Notary Public, personally appeared before me Jane Graham, known to me, who, upon being sworn, deposed and stated as follows: 1. I am Jane Graham. I am at least 21 years of age, and I have personal knowledge of the following facts, which facts are true and correct. 2. I am a victim/survivor of the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. Among other information, from my location on the 9th floor, I felt both major explosions, and I saw the wet concrete filling in the 24-25 foot "pits" (craters) in the basement of the Murrah Federal Building, within hours after the explosions. 3. I have made myself and my information available to the investigating authorities. However, my testimony was never sought for Grand Jury purposes and for trial purposes. 4. Also, I have been "visited" by officials who have tried to dissuade me from testifying as to the involvement of one Mr.Gary Hunt in the activities surrounding the explosions that collapsed the Murrah Federal Building. 5. I am one of several victims/survivors, and otherwise interested, parties plaintiff in a civil matter pending in Oklahoma arising from facts and circumstances of that bombing. It is difficult to continue with litigation when the evidence keeps ending up destroyed or otherwise made unavailable for any purpose. 6. Not only is there an interest in maintaining justice and fairness in the judicial proceedings of which I am a party, and with all matters stemming from that disaster, but some even more immediate is the possibility that the execution will not be within the authority normally expected for such procedures, but rather outside that authority. An entire group of us have endured quite a bit, directly, and if there's a way to prevent further damage, which could be rather serious in nature, in particular as regards the Warden and his staff, I am just one of several very interested in seeing that such further damage is prevented and avoided where it is at all possible to accomplish. 7. This completes this Affidavit. (Please see next page for signatures.)
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Jane GRAHAM, and V. Z. LAWTON Citizens of the State of Oklahoma, Plaintiff v. ' Cause No. _______________________ Harley LAPPIN, Warden United States Penitentiary Terre Haute, Indiana, Defendant The Honorable Steve CARTER, Attorney General, State of Indiana, a necessary party for matters involving public charitable trusts doing business in Indiana, a Necessary Party ORIGINAL COMPLAINT AND APPLICATION FOR (EMERGENCY) TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF The Parties. 1. Plaintiffs are Citizens of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. 2. GRAHAM is a victim/survivor of the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. Among other information, from her location on the 9th floor, she felt both major explosions, and she saw the wet concrete filling in the 24-25 foot "pits" (craters) in the basement of the Murrah Federal Building, within hours after the explosions. To date, her testimony was refused for Grand Jury purposes and for trial purposes. She has been "visited" by officials who have tried to dissuade her from testifying as to the involvement of one Mr. Gary Hunt in the activities surrounding the explosions that collapsed the Murrah Federal Building. She is a party plaintiff in a civil matter pending in Oklahoma arising from facts and circumstances of that bombing. 3. LAWTON is a victim/survivor of the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. He was on the 8th floor that morning. He has worked with the Oklahoma City Bombing Investigation Committee, headed by Charles Key, former Oklahoma State Representative. He is a party plaintiff in a civil matter pending in Oklahoma arising from the facts and circumstances of that bombing. 4. Mr. LAPPIN, a Defendant, is the Warden of the United States Penitentiary located in Terre Haute, Indiana, a resident in which facility is Offender McVeigh. In his capacity as Warden, Mr. LAPPIN is the responsible party for the penitentiary regarding any execution or any stay of execution. 5. Mr. LAPPIN may be served personally through the following business address: Mr. Harley Lappin, Warden United States Penitentiary 4200 Bureau Rd N Terre Haute, Indiana 47808 6. Mr. CARTER is the Attorney General of the State of Indiana, and, in this capacity, is a necessary party for matters involving public charitable trust entities doing business in Indiana.Time to determine with certainty the organizational structure of the prison facility is short, and counsel is preferring to err on the side of too much inclusion and too much notice. 7. Mr. CARTER may be served personally through the following business address: The Honorable Steve Carter Office of the Indiana Attorney General Indiana Government Center South, 5th Floor 402 West Washington Street Indianapolis, Indiana 46204 The Authority of This Court. 8. Plaintiffs seek relief in equity. There is no adequate remedy at law. 9. In fact, time being short, Plaintiffs seek emergency equitable relief. 10. Plaintiffs have sufficient interest in, and stake in the outcome of, this matter to have standing. 11. This court has subject matter jurisdiction over these claims for relief and these parties as follows: A. This Controversy arises under the Constitution, in particular under Article III, section 2, Article IV, section 2, and the Sixth amendment, to the effect that the "transferee" trial court in Colorado lacked subject matter jurisdiction to try any criminal matter that arose in Oklahoma. B. This Controversy is between Citizens of the State of Oklahoma and at least one Citizen of the State of Indiana, namely the penitentiary, the responsible party of which is the Warden. C. In the event this penitentiary is not a business entity, but rather an agency of the United States Government, then this matter could conceivably involve the United States Government as a party. 12. This court has personal jurisdiction over the parties, in that Mr. LAPPIN works in this State. 13. This court has proper venue, in that Defendant's place of business is in the same county in which this court sits. Overview. This effort intends to operate as an effective stay of execution of Timothy McVeigh, at least a temporary one. That execution is scheduled for early morning, Wednesday, 16 May 2001, which is less than one week from the date of likely filing of this pleading. Had there been any possible way to have initiated this sooner, counsel would certainly have done so. This proceeding does not concern McVeigh, or the death penalty, as such. This proceeding concerns these Plaintiffs, specifically, and, in a general sense, the personnel of our Armed Forces. For the Plaintiffs, interests of truth and justice are paramount, which interests are furthered by allowing all relevant evidence into the courtroom. For our Armed Forces personnel, who throughout history have been willing to pay the ultimate sacrifice for our notions of "limited government," for "us," the ones they serve, to "give away" in the courtroom what our Armed Forces personnel are willing to die to preserve on the battlefield is an intolerable circumstance. To carry out an "execution," based on a "judgment" from a court that clearly lacks subject matter jurisdiction, is to spit on the graves of those who have died in service to us, and in the face of those who presently serve us, to prevent that very sort of exercise of power against us, their family, friends and neighbors. Where a defendant is "good for it," and for the punishment that is appropriate, let that defendant be tried in the judicial forum with authority to enter such adjudication and sentence. Claim 1: Lack of subject matter jurisdiction in the transferee trial court, generally. Criminal matters can be tried only in the State in which they are alleged to have occurred. Since these charges were tried not in Oklahoma, but rather in Colorado, it follows that the transferee Colorado court lacked subject matter jurisdiction to try any criminal matter that arose or occurred within the State of Oklahoma. Claim 2: Lack of subject matter jurisdiction in any United States District Court to try "murder" Cases. Congress has no power or authority, for the purposes of generating "admissible evidence of Law of the United States," on the subject of "murder." Congress does have "exclusive legislative Authority," as regards the District of Columbia, and property owned by the United States Government, to define and punish "murder." However, these Cases against McVeigh involve neither the District of Columbia nor property owned by the United States Government. Further, even if there were to come to existence evidence supporting the position that the property on which stood the Murrah Federal Building was property owned by the United States Government, it is still the case that such language, which is "admissible evidence of Law" only in the District (and for US property), is not the basis for any litigation in a court exercising the Article III judicial Power, for such judicial Power does not extend to matters arising under "Law of the District." Claim 3: Preservation of McVeigh as "evidence." There is still litigation pending, both civil and criminal, as a result of the deaths and damage resulting from the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building. The building itself, is one of the best sources of evidence as to what took place that morning, and that evidence has already been destroyed. It's an interesting and unique view, to be sure, to consider McVeigh as "evidence," but this is an accurate and justiciable point. What he knows, and, even what is in, or not it, his body, is relevant evidence to the continuing litigation, both civil and criminal. To "execute" McVeigh is to destroy evidence needed for the continuing litigation. The Facts. Claim 1: The scheduled execution of Timothy McVeigh should be indefinitely postponed, because the death sentence judgment against McVeigh is void and unenforceable. No trial court in Colorado, whether a State or United States trial court, has subject matter jurisdiction to try any Case that arises in Oklahoma. 14. The bombing of the World Trade Center in New York resulted in criminal litigation, which litigation took place in the State of New York. (Judicial Notice) 15. More recently, the bombing of he church in Alabama resulted in criminal litigation, which litigation took place in the State of Alabama. (Judicial Notice) 16. The Cases against McVeigh arise from acts and events that took place in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. (Judicial Notice) 17. Oklahoma is a State. (Judicial Notice) 18. The Murrah Federal Building was located in Oklahoma City, which city is within the State of Oklahoma. (Judicial Notice) 19. The Murrah Federal Building collapsed after the ignition of multiple explosions, which building collapse caused the tragic deaths of those victims. 20. As proved by the Eglin Air Force Base Blast Effects Study, led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, United States Air Force, retired, former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world's premier explosives and ordnance authorities, among other evidence, in particular the evidence collected and preserved under the direction of Charles Key, former Oklahoma State Representative, it is highly unlikely that the truck bomb, the only explosion attributed to McVeigh, was sufficient to cause the building to collapse. 21. Since the primary purpose of trial is to place responsibility where it belongs, it follows that the judicial process to date has failed to accomplish its primary purpose. 22. Further, no criminal matter, not even Treason, can be tried by a court, whether a State or a United States trial court, outside the State in which those acts occurred. (Law) 23. Yet, the Cases against McVeigh were transferred across the Oklahoma State line, namely to Denver, Colorado. (Judicial Notice) 24. Because the transferee court was not in Oklahoma, the transferee court lacked subject matter jurisdiction to hear any Case against McVeigh. (Conclusion fact/law) 25. Therefore, the adjudication of guilt and the and sentence of death against McVeigh are void and unenforceable. (Conclusion, fact/law) 26. Therefore, there is no authority to carry out any execution of McVeigh. Because there is no authority in an order or judgment from a court that lacks the authority to try the Cases, one primary concern behind this proceeding is that it is possible, as a matter of law, that such act amounts to another act of murder, and of destruction of evidence, of which we have had more than enough in this matter already. (Conclusion fact/law) 27. If McVeigh is a murderer, then let such charges be tried in a court that has the authority to try those Cases, namely the State District Court in Oklahoma County, Oklahoma. Claim 2: The scheduled execution of Timothy McVeigh should be indefinitely postponed, because the death sentence judgment against McVeigh is void and unenforceable. The language used in the indictment on the "murder" charges is not "admissible evidence of Law" for any of the Cases charged against McVeigh. Alternatively, and in addition, to the foregoing, 28. Congress has no "legislative Power" to define and punish "murder" (which term here intends to cover any instrumentality by which is caused the death of another) as a matter of "admissible evidence of Law of the United States." (Conclusion Law) 29. While Congress does have "exclusive legislative Authority" to define and punish "murder," for purposes of "admissible evidence of Law of the District of Columbia," which is the Seat of the Government of the United States, the Murrah Federal Building was not in the District of Columbia. (Fact Judicial Notice, Law) 30. While Congress does have "exclusive legislative Authority" to define and punish "murder," for purposes of "admissible evidence of Law" for matters that occur on property owned by United States Government, the Murrah Federal Building was not on property owned by the United States Government. (Fact Judicial Notice, Law) A. There is no deed or receipt showing ownership in the United States Government, and no such document or evidence was ever introduced at trial. (Judicial Notice) B. There is no "Consent" by the Oklahoma State Legislature to any such transfer into the hands of the United States Government, and no such document or evidence was ever introduced at trial. (Judicial Notice) 31. The "murder" charges in the indictment were based on language that is not Law of the United States. If that language is Law, it can only be Law of the District of Columbia. Outside that geographical limit, that language is "admissible evidence of Law" only for matters arising on, or somehow pertaining to, property owned by the United States Government. Since the Murrah Federal Building was not located on property owned by the United States government, the language of the indictment regarding these charges of "murder" cannot be the basis for any "murder" charge arising from the facts and circumstances of these Cases. (Any statutory language regarding "murder" can be provided only by the Oklahoma Legislature.) (Facts Judicial Notice, Law) 32. Since no language produced by the Oklahoma Legislature was the statutory basis for any "murder" charge against McVeigh, the indictment, as regards those particular charges, is void on its face. (Conclusion fact/law) 33. Since the "murder" charge language of the indictment does not assert a Case that arises under the Constitution, or under the Laws of the United States, or under any Treaty, and since such "murder" charge language does not assert a Case affecting any Ambassador, other public Minister or Consul, and since such "murder" charge language does not assert a Case of admiralty or maritime Jurisdiction, not only is the failure in that pleading not subject to waiver, but also such failure amounts to a failure to establish subject matter jurisdiction in any United States District Court regarding those "murder" charges. (Conclusion fact/law) 34. Since it is the "causing the death of another" language, in that or those statutory provisions, that led to the death penalty sentence, it follows that the order handing down that sentence, as regards the "murder" charges, is void and unenforceable. (Conclusion fact/law) 35. Therefore, there is no authority to carry out any execution of McVeigh, meaning that it is likely that such act amounts to nothing more than another act of murder, and another act of destruction of evidence, of which we have had more than enough in this matter already. (Conclusion fact/law) 36. If McVeigh is a murderer, then let such charges be brought by the Grand Jury of Oklahoma County, the one body in the entire country that has the authority to assert such "murder" charges, which charges, in this case, can be based only on Law of the State of Oklahoma, whether common law or legislative enactment, as the case may be. Claim 3: The scheduled execution of Timothy McVeigh should be indefinitely postponed, because destroying McVeigh is another act of destruction of evidence. For so long as litigation exists, and there is still litigation pending as a result of the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building, both civil and criminal, McVeigh is a source of evidence, both as to what he knows and to his physical body. Alternatively, and in addition, to the foregoing, 37. Broadcast nationally through various news programs have been the comments both of McVeigh's psychiatrist and his former defense counsel. Specifically mentioned by the psychiatrist has been McVeigh's "consent" to the disclosure of that otherwise privileged information. Since McVeigh has communicated his willingness to provide evidence, what makes sense is to hear this information from him directly, rather than through his representatives. (Judicial Notice) 38. Even though litigation continues as a result of the collapse of the Murrah Federal Building, the building, itself, which is a vital source of evidence as to what took place that morning, was razed. (Judicial Notice) 39. Even though litigation continues, one key party to a particularly relevant set of events and circumstances, namely McVeigh, is scheduled to be destroyed. (Judicial Notice) 40. Even though litigation continues, one key item of evidence, namely the physical body of McVeigh, itself, is scheduled to be destroyed. (Judicial Notice) 41. Since the judicial proceedings to date have done far more to raise questions than to answer them, to raise doubts than to dispel them, it follows that all who have interests in the currently pending litigation, and in any timely initiated litigation that may follow, should be allowed the fullest accessibility to every possible remaining shred of evidence, even that of the living, physical body of McVeigh, and of the information McVeigh himself has, as regards all elements and facets of these extraordinary circumstances. (Conclusion fact/law) 42. Since such matters are still in the trial stage, potentially subject to retrial, until there is no possible additional proceeding for which evidence that McVeigh can provide is pending, McVeigh must be preserved as evidence. (Judicial Notice, Conclusion fact/law) 43. Many properly convicted murderers spend a great many years on "death row." Thus, there seems an unusual hurry to execute McVeigh, especially in light of the lack of subject matter jurisdiction to impose the sentence of death, both as to the trial court, generally, and as to the "murder" charges, specifically. (Judicial Notice) Prayer for Relief Wherefore, premises considered, Plaintiffs request that the court grant the following relief: 1. Issue a temporary injunction, upon hearing or ex parte, as the circumstances may initially require, effectively staying the execution of Timothy McVeigh. 2. Grant a permanent injunction, upon notice and opportunity to be heard, to stay the execution of Timothy McVeigh. 3. Grant any and all other relief to which Plaintiffs may show themselves justly entitled. Respectfully submitted, Harmon L. Taylor Texas State Bar No. 19693800 Lawyer and Counselor P.O. Box 516104 Dallas, Texas 75251 Telephone: (214) 361-0401 Facsimile: (214) 361-0306 Lawyer for Plaintiffs 3 sent to-365532-6613-989351528 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:15:08 -0500 ORIGINAL COMPLAINT AND APPLICATION FOR TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF Signed and sworn to on this the 10th day of May, 2001. Jane Graham, Affiant Notary Public (Seal or Stamp) My Commission Expires: CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE On this the 10th day of May, 2001, I certify that I have served upon the following parties, by process server, the foregoing Affidavit of Jane Graham: Warden Lappin Attorney General Carter United States Penitentiary Indiana Government Center South, 5th Floor 4200 Bureau Rd N 402 West Washington Street Terre Haute, Indiana 47808 Indianapolis, Indiana 46204 Harmon L. Taylor
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government who know the truth. They must be sweating bullets right now.
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From: LegalReality Good Morning: I'm Harmon L. Taylor, and I'm licensed in Texas (SBN 19693800), since May, 1989. Your name came up as someone in Terre Haute who might be able to get me in touch with at least one lawyer there who would be able to serve as local counsel. Let me apologize up front for what may be a close shave on the practical time line. I've been following the McVeigh case since fairly early on, and there are a couple of major problems stemming from lack of judicial authority to try the case at all, and I'd like to get those heard in the court there in the county in which the correctional facility is located. McVeigh, as a person, is about the last concern on my list. What gets my attention here is the cost it has taken to obtain and preserve our notions of "limited government." If it helps at all, my grandfather (Mom's Dad), served in the Navy in WWI; I went to Texas A&M; I've got family and friends on active duty and on reserve duty, and it can't stand it when they get, let's just call it "the epitome of disrespect," when what they're ready to protect is just willy-nilly given away in the courtroom. In March, I wrote the President a letter. The full text is on the website (http://www.legalreality.com). (I understand you've done quite a little pro life-litigation, so you also may be at least interested in my discussion on Roe v. Wade, when you get a minute.) I didn't expect a lot to happen, and, I haven't been disappointed by setting my expectations too high. What I had depended upon, perhaps too optimistically, was a contact into your area in order to get some planning done considerably earlier than "now." There having been none until yesterday, I can just allow this to play out and see what the Divine Intervention result will be. And, your name came up from the pro-life matters, so I doubt you'd even know from whom came the reference. At any rate, in the Open Letter to the President, I outline two reasons to stay the execution. Actually, both points would change the current result drastically, but the primary objective is to prevent the execution. I don't know; we may have different views on the death penalty, but even where I would otherwise find it the appropriate sentence, I'd like first for the court to have at least the authority to try the case. Point 1: No court (State or US) in Colorado has subject matter jurisdiction to try a criminal case that arose outside Colorado, in this case, Oklahoma. Article III, section 2, Article 4, section 2, and the Sixth Amendment are abundantly clear that even Treason, the one crime defined in the Constitution, itself, cannot be tried outside the State in which it arose. So, there's no legislatively defined/punished behavior (State or US) that can ever be "transferred" across the State line. In other words, even if the language used for purposes of the indictment were "Law of the United States," it's still legally impossible for a crime in Oklahoma to be tried in Colorado. Not even Treason committed in Oklahoma could be tried in Colorado. Point 2: (In sum) The indictment is insufficient on its face, as regards the charges of murder. Congress has zero authority to address the topic of murder (and, in this area, we might be able to get a better handle on what the feds are trying to do as regards abortion). Since Congress can't address murder in such a way as to create "Law of the United States," what we're left with is either a military matter or a matter involving United States property. Two key problems here. (1) The McVeigh case is neither a military matter nor a matter involving United States property, and (2) even if this involved United States property, such legislation is not a basis for activating Article III, section 2, subject matter jurisdiction. As regards the first key problem. The non-military angle may speak for itself, so I'll address the summary as to how we know this wasn't a matter involving United States property. For property to be United States property, there must be, among the other requirements, two documents: (1) A deed (some form of receipt) and (2) an Act by the State Legislature granting "Consent" to the sale of that property to the United States Government. Art. I, section 8 (in the "exclusive legislative Authority" clause). The local media, there in OK City, ran a few stories really early on into this matter that established that no such documents exists. That story didn't get national attention, and I only learned about it after proposing this angle to some folks there in OK City. At any rate, after contacting the State Legislature myself, and getting no response, and being satisfied that it's impossible for such documents to be in the original trial record, since the documents don't exist, I'm 100% certain that we're not talking about US Government Property: (1) There is no deed (receipt), and (2) the Oklahoma Legislature never consented to any transfer into the hands of the United States Government. Therefore, this is not even a matter that involves US Government property, which leaves both the US Grand Jury and the US Attorney General's Office in the reality of having no authority in/over the case. As regards the second key problem (regarding the basis for the murder charges). Let's say that the AG's Office comes up with some fraudulently filed and authenticated documents that would then satisfy the requirements that this property was US Government property. It's still the case than any language that would apply to the District (and all US Government property) would HAVE to be handled by the STATE authorities. Since Article III, section 2, does not extend the judicial Power to matters that "arise under" the Law of the District (which is made by Congress pursuant to the "exclusive legislative Authority" clause in Article I, section 8), it follows that there just simply is no basis for trying such crimes in any US District Court in the country, much less even presenting them to a US Grand Jury, or having them handled by the US AG's Office. But, to focus on the essential point, there's zero authority in any US District Court, not even one in Oklahoma, to try a criminal charge based on language that is only applicable to/in the District (and to US Government property). Those matters MUST be sued out in the State judicial process. That's the legal basis for asking for a stay of execution. Not to get into the "this is splitting hairs" angle, I'm also 100% convinced that the truck bomb, the only explosion to which McVeigh has been associated, was anything like sufficient to bring down that building. As indicated in the letter to the President, the facts we know to be true, which have yet to make the national media, include the fact that each one of the vertical supports in that building had a demolition charge strapped to it (which the FBI, ATF, etc., knew about, which is why they weren't there that day). The tireless work that (former) Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key and his team have done puts this, and many unreported facts rather much beyond dispute. In short, on the issue of causation, we have this. This is not an explosion case, as has been marketed by the media. It's a building collapse case. Those very unfortunate deaths were not caused by the explosion, but by the building collapse. So, the question is this: which explosion(s) that morning caused the building to collapse? Given that it was physically impossible for the truck bomb to do much more than break some windows, it follows that there's an intervening cause, and superseding cause, which other cause is the actual cause of the building collapse. Thus, it's impossible for McVeigh's actions to have resulted in the building collapse, meaning it's legally impossible for McVeigh to have committed murder, at all. That's the matter in a nutshell. Please feel free to forward this to any who might be able to serve as local counsel. Thanks, very much, for having a minute, and for your time in this matter. Harmon L. Taylor
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documents" story on the 10th. I heard this on the news
that night in my hotel room. The mainstream media" said it like this:
"The government's lapse in turning over the documents...." Lapse?
This is what they call obstruction of justice and lying - a lapse? Oh,
good. And they wonder why thinking Americans do not trust this government
or their goon agencies? A very important point here about this
"sudden discovery": Once again the government has put the
situation back into an arena they can control: a federal court matter.
Same judge, same players, outcome controlled.
These documents are potentially nothing. Isn't that what we keep hearing from the feds? They're gonna give up a few documents that are "nothing." What are they holding that we don't know about? Lots I'll bet. Does this stink or what? Jane Graham's lawsuit is hot and I'm still waiting to hear something about it from the "mainstream media" or even Bill O'Reilly. Fat chance. If Mrs. Graham's suit was signed, mailed and filed around the 9th, you can bet DoJ already knew it was coming. Suddenly we have "newly discovered," actually withheld, documents and the stay of McVeigh's execution. Pretty nifty timing on the government's part, wouldn't you say? I say the FBI is full of it and some of them should be hauled in front of a grand jury. If you have not read the Inspector General's report on the FBI lab fiasco, brought to light by a courageous man named Frederick Whitehurst, you can do so at: http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/fbilab1/fbil1toc.htm Excerpt: "From the report: "As explained below, we conclude that in this report, Williams repeatedly reached conclusions that incriminated the defendants without a scientific basis and that were not explained in the body of the report. We find fault with other aspects of the report as well. We also conclude that Thurman performed an inadequate review of Williams' report by allowing Williams too much discretion and by approving conclusions with which Thurman disagreed and could not support. Further, we conclude that Martz improperly deviated from the explosives residue protocol in his examination of some specimens." "Williams testified at his OIG interview that determining (scientific stuff deleted).....Williams also acknowledged that although ammonium nitrate crystals were found at the post-blast scene, there are many explosives t\in the range of 12,14000 fps that have ammonium nitrate in them. Nevertheless, Williams concluded in his report that the main explosive used at OKC was ANFO. He acknowledged that he reached this conclusion, in part, because Terry Nichols, one of the defendants in this case, purchased ammonium nitrate and diesel oil prior to the bombing. Without the evidence of these purchases, Williams admitted he would have been unable to conclude that ANFO was used. Indeed, Williams stated that based on the post-blast scene along, it could have been dynamite." Let me see if I have this straight: This guy says that he concluded that ANFO was the component used in the OKC bombing because Mr. Nichols bought ammonia nitrate and diesel oil prior to the bombing. It might surprise Mr. Williams to know that literally thousands of farmers in this country and demolition companies, purchase ammonia nitrate for things like removing huge tree stumps on farm land, diesel oil for a myriad of machinery. This is Williams' "scientific" basis for his "expert" opinion? Back to this very enlightening report. "We conclude that it was inappropriate for Williams to render a categorical opinion in his report that the main charge was ANFO. As discussed with reference to the World Trade Center case, it is inappropriate for a forensic laboratory examiner to identify the main charge based in whole or in part on prior knowledge of the explosive components purchased by a defendant. Such an identification is not based on scientific or technical grounds and appears to tailor the opinion to evidence associated with the defendants." Mr. Whitehurst paid a terrible price for blowing the whistle on the out-right lying, evidence tampering and incompetence at the FBI lab in Washington, DC. He eventually was paid $1.1 million bucks for the misery this government put him through. In this report you will read that the FBI bunglers were chastised for "making the evidence fit McVeigh and the bombing." No, I am not kidding. Mrs. Graham talks about a man named Gary Hunt and his possible involvement. But, Larry Becraft says he saw Gary Hunt in Orlando, Florida the same day. I personally spoke with Charles Key about Hunt. If you don't know who Charles Key is, please go to: http://www.okcbombing.org/about_us.htm For those who have studied the Kennedy assassination, there were too many Lee Harvey Oswalds running around, at least 8 of them. There is a web site that has an interesting photo comparison gallery that is worth looking at: http://www.jfkresearch.com/lho2.htm We seem to have the same problem here with Gary Hunt and Timothy McVeigh. Charles Key told me he questioned Gary Hunt twice and both times his alibi turned out to be bogus. A friend of mine who was sitting with Jane Graham when she was viewing the Cover-Up in OKC video, jumped right off the couch the minute she saw the segment with two men walking away from the crime scene. Later she indicated that this could be Gary Hunt. I think many people feel McVeigh is an enigma. I've already covered this in my last piece. There are many similarities between McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald: Both were in the military:
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I would give a lot to see the video from the court room when this picture was taken.... Multiple Bombs This subject has been debunked by the government ad nauseam. I have covered this so many times in prior pieces, I'm weary of covering the same ground. However, it is a subject that continues to resonate with many survivors and eyewitnesses, including Governor Frank Keating and the mayor of OKC on that day, Ron Norick. The live presentation of their statements is on that Cover-Up in OKC video I spoke of earlier. Here's another one I found: http://www.journalrecord.com/05-19-95a.htm From the Journal Record (newspaper). Their building was badly damaged by what I firmly believe was the first decoy bomb in the parking lot of the Southwestern Bell Building right next door. I have an easier time relating to the location of all these buildings than 99.999% of Americans since I stood in front of the Murrah Building on May 19th & 20th of 1995, just days before the building was imploded and the evidence hauled away for safe keeping. http://www.journalrecord.com/05-19-95a.htm Wednesday, April 19, 1995 "In an unnatural cloud of relief, and disbelief, I left to find people fleeing north. Another bomb had been found. I wondered then what I would do, stranded in what I considered a dangerous part of town, but even then the Lord was watching over me. "I'm surprised this one is still up on the net. It is so important to listen to the people who were there and gave statements within a few hours of what they saw and felt. I personally interviewed a lady named Ann who worked in circulation at the Journal Record. It was heartbreaking because she was still very emotional, but she told me there were two blasts, not one. According to every then credible source, Gov. Frank Keating, Mayor Ron Norick and a terrorist/bomb expert (on the OKC film), Dr. Randall Heath, more bombs were found inside the building and had been removed. Where are those bombs? What "signature" was found on them? If you don't want to believe me, how about government documents? The official documents on the web site below will literally blow your mind. I had not seen these documents before, but they fit with all the eyewitness accounts and live news coverage as the story unfolded: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/bombs.html How about the Oklahoma City Fire Department's claim that there was another bomb(s)? The Secondary Device "10:30 a.m. The radio crackles, "Everybody out of the building". Fire fighters scurry down the ladder which has been utilized to reach and remove the injured. You move away from the building to the northeast. Firefighters stand by their pumper, eager to return to the rescue efforts. The aerial ladders sit in front of the building, void of personnel." You can hear the fire personnel on audio telling their crews to get out of the building because of a secondary device: http://www.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/htm/photo0_1.htm Are they all a bunch of right-wing wackos, too? Let me tell you people: This was about as serious as anything can get in this world. Go listen to the audio tapes on the OKC Fire Department's own web site and then tell John Ashcroft that the FBI, the ATF and the Department of Justice have lied through their teeth and we demand the truth. More: http://www.emergency.com/oklabomb.htm " A secondary device was also reportedly found inside the building, believed placed there with a time delay fuse to kill rescuers, after they had arrived on the scene. Unconfirmed reports were also received of a third device. The secondary device was reported disarmed at the scene. Further details regarding the actual configuration of the devices is being withheld by federal officials as the investigation continues." Also from the OKC Fire Department: http://www.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/htm/photo0_2.htm "After the "bomb" is removed, rescue operations resume. Approaching from the east, you see the damaged building and the street full of debris. As you get closer you observe a heavily damaged car next to the large pile of debris in front of the Murrah Building." Alright - where is that bomb? Who has it? How many more were taken from the building? Car bomb or truck bomb? I have covered this extensively in my earlier pieces, but I still find it amazing that the mayor of OKC and everyone else standing right there, continued to call this a car bombing, including the ATF and FBI for several days after the bombing. It wasn't until the 23rd that the car bomb magically turned into a truck bomb. Besides all the examples I give in prior posts, let me give you some new ones: Chicago Tribune, April 20, 1995: "The day opened with the thunder of a massive car bombing at a federal building and the horror of a death toll that could run past a hundred. "At day's end Wednesday, authorities confirmed that at least 31 people had been killed in the car bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, the worst U.S. bomb attack measured by death toll in 75 years. "The blast was so powerful that it rocked the ground 40 miles away." From a truck bomb? Not according to any credible scientific source outside the government. Check this statement, same source: "It sent shrapnel-like shards of glass, steel and concrete rocketing for four blocks around the federal building and blasted windows out of structures hundreds of yards from the site of the explosion, which was marked by an 8-foot-deep crater in an adjacent parking lot." The government and it's media have maintained from day one that the "big, yellow Ryder truck" left a crater in front of the building 8' x 30'. The piece above says there is a crater in an adjacent parking lot. That would be the Southwest Bell Building. Get the Cover-Up in Oklahoma video. You will see the live helicopter shots and I guarantee you - there is NO crater in front of the building. No picture of one anywhere I've ever seen. Period, end of that lie. One more thing from this Chicago Trib piece dated April 20, 1995: "A police source told The Associated Press that FBI agents were trying to piece together a van or a truck that was believed to have carried the explosives. An axle of the vehicle, believed to be rented, was found about two blocks from the scene, the source said." Wait? Didn't they open the piece by stating it was a car bomb? An axle was found two blocks from the scene? That little "fact" was hammered home during McVeigh's trial out in Denver. I lived in Lakewood (suberb of Denver) during his trial and saw all the coverage. Let me think about this for a second: Here we have a truck bomb that allegedly contains 13 huge, blue containers full of ANFO explosive material. (Can you fit that many of those huge containers in that 26' truck?) The axle is on the underneath part of a truck. It seems to me the blast would drive the axle downward instead of leaping tall buildings and landing two blocks away. But, what do I know? I don't work for the feds so my common sense thinking doesn't apply. And, consider this: During McVeigh's trial, guess what we saw on the local coverage via the boob tube? Photos of the "truck bomb axle" sitting on top of a small car which was parked across the street from the Murrah Building (in front of the 20-story condo building). I was there. I know exactly where they were talking about. Now, wait another second, here. After the bombing, the feds were able to piece together a Ryder truck based on the VIN numbers on an axle found two blocks from the crime scene that leaped tall buildings. During McVeigh's trial, the axle is now found in a more believeable location. Sure, and I'm fluent in 16 languages. Here's another gem from that piece: "In the absence of a claim of responsibility for the blast, the day was full of speculation." Really? No one knows who did it? Try this one on for size and I confirmed this with the reporter who stands by his statement: NY Times, April 22, 1995, page 8, column 1, check this: "Then a routine check of his [McVeigh's] social security number matched one flagged by the FBI as belonging to a suspect in the bombing." This story came out on the 22nd but was written on the 21st. McVeigh was picked up by OK State Trooper Charlie Hanger on the morning of April 19th. On the morning of April 21st, the boys in Perry, OK are notified that they have in their custody a suspect from the OKC bombing. I think we can assume that McVeigh's social security number was put out on the NCIC and other law enforcement alerts and bingo! Up pops their boy, safe and contained in a po-dunk jail. How very convenient. "Mainstream media" putting their spin on the multiple-bombing "conspiracy theory": http://webusers.anet-stl.com/~civil/govliesoklahomacity.html Statement from survivor: http://www.journalrecord.com/05-19-95b.htm "After a few minutes we got through to our families, but were unsuccessful in our attempt to reach David's wife. I was shocked to hear that my aunt had heard and felt the blast 50 miles away." A car bomb that kicked a blast so powerful it was felt 50 miles away? I don't think so. Still a car bomb: April 22nd: http://www.nando.net/nt/images/okcity/ntp8b.html April 24th http://www.nando.net/nt/images/okcity/ntp4d.html April 26th: http://www.nando.net/nt/images/okcity/ntp12f.html I believe, after having reviewed thousands of photos of the building and surrounding area, that a car bomb did go off first. A decoy bomb. This would have happened in the parking lot across the street from the Southwest Bell Building. This would account for the heavy damage done to the Record Journal Building next to the parking lot and the near leveling of the Southwest Bell Building. This is also the observation made by the OKC Fire Department: http://www.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/htm/photo0.htm "The Journal Record building at left is just north of the Murrah building, next to the parking lot. The smoke appears to be coming from the parking lot area." I would like you to look at the picture below very carefully. This is the best photo of the crime scene I have. 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the video taken out of the security camera mounted on the front of the
Southwest Bell Building was in their possession. Where is that tape?
It was not used to convict McVeigh. Why not? The feds are hiding
this critical piece of film that memorializes exactly what happened in
front of the building that morning. Have you seen the movie, Rules of
Engagement, with Tommy Lee Jones? This is exactly what happens in that
movie: The feds hide a critical video that would exonerate his client in
the movie. The video is burned, but Jones does convince the military court
martial board that this film would have proven his client innocent and
that's why the government "lost it," even though they had
acknowledged receipt of it. The issue of this missing video is beyond
outrageous.
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must have been shot within minutes of the bombing. Look at this video. The
major fire is from the bombed out area of the Southwest Bell parking lot.
Then look at the Murrah Building and where the smoke is coming from--just
like the implosion photos - from inside the building:
http://www.cnn.ru/US/OKC/bombing.html - Scroll down towards the bottom where it says "Quicktime Movies" and click onto Damage to the Murrah Building. It takes about a minute and a half to load, but it's worth the wait to see the truth as it was happening, not what the government's media apparatus, the FBI, ATF and White House later spun to the unsuspecting American people. In the two photos above at the World Trade Center bombing, you can clearly see the columns at ground zero are still intact. This alleged Ryder van carried (someone's guess) 1,200 pounds of explosives similar to those alleged to have been used in OKC. The explosion in the basement of the World Trade Center caused massive damage, no question. Seven floors collapsed, five people were murdered, about 1000 injured according to various reports. But the columns stood. We are supposed to believe that another Ryder truck bomb parked 50' away from the building, caused the massive damage to the building, including bring down these huge concrete reinforced columns? What crap. Believe what you can see. The web site below has some of the best photos of the crime scene and I encourage you to please hit on it. Look at each photo in the enlarged version and also the audio if you can. These photos are incredible and reinforce my earlier statements about what those on the scene must have gone through and the courage by so many in trying to reach the injured: http://www.fireprograms.okstate.edu/OCFD/htm/implode.htm</font> Feds Test ANFO Bombs Before OKC Did you know that Bill Clinton's National Security Council funded ATF experiments on home made ANFO truck bombs in 1994 - only a few short months before the OKC bombing? Yup, they did. Media Bypass Magazine carried the story, including the photos they obtained under the Freedom of Information Act request. Did you know that Special Agent Harry Everhart, an employee of the ATF, one of their own experts in ANFO truck bombs just happened to be in front of the Murrah building when it exploded and in fact, called in to report the details of the bombing to his superiors from the scene within minutes of the blast? Oh, yes, that's true. The Department of the Treasury confirmed that Everhart called the ATF office in Dallas on his cell phone and reported that the Murrah Building had just been "attacked" by an ANFO truck bomb. How did he know it was a truck bomb less than 20 minutes after the explosions? I have the November 1996 issue sitting in front of me, let me quote: "According to files, reports and photographs obtained by Media Bypass from the Department of Treasury through a FOIA request, the United States Government initiated a "comprehensive ANFO and C4 vehicle bomb testing program" about a year before the OKC bombing. Records show the project was supervised and administered by ATF, but was actually funded through a National Security Council directive. The Department of Treasury confirms the project was initiated under President Bill Clinton's NSC White House staff shortly after he took office in 1993." This program was called "Dipole Might." More from Media Bypass: "Despite only one known case (ANFO bombing) in almost 25 years, did Clinton's National Security Council actually anticipate a need for detailed information regarding ANFO vehicle bomb attacks a few months before the OKC blast?......In fact, a brief summary of Project Dipole Might is featured in ATF's 10994 Annual Report to Congress. It reads: Dipole Might is the name given to a research project ATF is working on in conjunction with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Defense Nuclear Agency. The objective of this three year project, funded by the NSC in 1993, is to create a computerized data base and investigative protocol for the investigation of large scale vehicle bombs.....The tests for this project were conceived using four of the most common roadbed types in the United States and explosive charges that varied in size from 50 pounds to 1,000 pound and type from C4 to ANFO (C4 to represent the effect of plastic explosives and ANFO for its common availability and use in terrorist devices)."The Ryder van bomb in the World Trade Center basement was allegedly 1,200#. The Ryder truck bomb in OKC began at 1,200# and eventually grew to 4,800# as the feds realized their initial estimate wouldn't hold up with the damage to the building. Is this just coincidence? The November 1996 issue of Media Bypass has several photos of the ATF's experiments blowing up a van. Because of the quality of the photos in the print magazine, we couldn't scan them for this piece. Why? Why would anyone bomb a federal building in OKC? This question has been asked a thousand painful times. Some believe it was a sting operation gone wrong. Maybe. Others think it has more sinister roots. Unless we continue to push for the truth, we'll never know. One thing I do know, the U.S. Government, specifically the FBI, trained and funded the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center. Don't believe me? Do the research. The FBI's own undercover snitch, Emad A. Salem, secretly recorded his conversations with his FBI handlers and the transcripts were finally made public in late 1993. The "mainstream media" tried to spin that the FBI "missed an opportunity to prevent the World Trade Center bombing," but that is more bilge. Go to the library and read the NY Times from October 28, 1993 through the end of the month. Read the semi-accurate account in the LA Times, October 29, 1993. Read the truth, folks. The government said that the big break came when one of the terrorists returned to the rental company where he procured the van and tried to get his deposit back! Oh, my God - did they really expect thinking people to bite on that one? Despite cultural differences, we're supposed to believe that some guy who rented a van, filled it with explosives, set it off in the basement of the World Trade Center, then went back to the rental company the next day to get his deposit returned? That's what the official story line is and it's beyond sickening. But, why? What do middle Eastern terrorists crawling around in country who bombed the World Trade Center have to do with the OKC bombing? What about all the initial reports of middle Eastern looking types right after the OKC bombing? Anything in common? Only one: The Omni-bus Anti-Terrorism bill. This bill was churning for a long time in Congress. Only after OKC did it finally get passed, thanks to the efforts of Congressmen Henry Hyde (member of the Council on Foreign Relations) and Bob Barr (GA). Both Republicans. Two well written pieces on this can be found at: http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/multi/terrorism/wtc.html http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1995/03/08/MN6657.DTL For those out there who would rather stay warm and dry in your comfort zones, who cannot believe the evil running the machine out in Washington, DC., I say crawl back in your holes and stay comfy. But for those of you who demand the truth and justice, we're finally seeing some panic out of DC. I believe, and this is just my opinion, that the World Trade Center bombing and the one in OKC were done deliberately and that cells of middle Eastern terrorists, along with folks like Andy Strassmeir and the rest of the John Does, carried out this heinous act. These murders were done to get that anti- terrorism bill through Congress. A bill that destroys our rights in the biggest way imaginable. It is a grotesque thought, but I would like anyone who had anything to do with the OKC bombing to listen up: This shadow government eats their own for survival. It would not surprise me to see a few of you plucked out of obscurity and hung out to dry just to make it look like "the bad guys" were caught after all these years. Better you guys come clean now and settle for a deal and 20 years in prison than have the government get you into the area they control (a federal trial) and you end up on the other end of a needle like McVeigh's looking at. Can't happen? Ha! Ashcroft says McVeigh will be executed June 11th. McVeigh has quite an interesting history during his short stint with the military. We must find out if he has a bio-chip or what programs he was involved with while in the military. Just exactly who was handling this boy? I ask Larry Becraft about this and he said he's sure that all of this is probably going to be kept secret under the guise of "classified for national security." Ashcroft's office or an honest judge could fix that in a NY second. Something is very wrong about this guy. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald. If you're going to execute McVeigh, do it for the right reason and be sure. If he was fooling around with these jokers at Elhoim City and was thinking about bombing a federal building, you don't execute someone for thinking about something. What about Andrew Strassmeir? The FBI and a guy named Kirk Lyons (strange bedfellows playing together), assisted getting this key player out of the country. John Ashcroft should use all the power of his office to extradite this guy back to the United States - today. Below are more stories and pieces on the bombing. It's a mountain of material to be sure, but then so are the lies that have been spewed by this government. Both of these publications below have excdellent, intensely researched stories. I hope that due to what's happened, both magazines might consider putting all their OKC stories up on their web sites since these are such old issues of their magazines and they may not carry them anymore. Media Bypass - 1-800-4bypass
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22930 Thanks to Joe Farah and his entire staff for their coverage. |
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